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Lisa Simeone's avatar

Frankly, the left — so-called — is also responsible for this, because they’re the ones who came up with the inane “hate speech.” The concept has always been bullshit — as I’ve been saying ever since it was created.

Speech is speech. We already had laws on the books in the US for speech that incited violence. That was all we needed. But liberals — again, so-called, because so many of them are profoundly ILliberal — insisted on the batshit-insane concept of “hate speech.”

I'm a lifelong liberal and not afraid to call out the hypocrisies and idiocies of "my" side.

Democracy is flailing all over the world, and it's not just the authoritarian rightwing that's causing it.

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Alastair James's avatar

As a Brit I'd like to comment on the British cases. In the Maxie Allen and Rosalind Levine case the couple were released without charge. The county's elected Police and Crime Commissioner said "that shouldn't have become a police matter" and has asked the Chief Constable of the force to conduct a review and provide him with an explanation. In the Rose Docherty case the law she was accused of breaking is about protesting within 200 metres of an abortion clinic. It is legal to protest 201 metres from a clinic. It is legal to write to the newspapers about your views on abortion. It is legal to organise an abortion protest in front of the Houses of Parliament. What the law seeks to do is to stop people behaving in ways that could influence the decisions of women and staff to access services at an abortion clinic at what is a very emotionally difficult time for them. This includes praying if it could be intimidating to people attending the clinic. At present abortion is legal up to 24 weeks with the agreement of two doctors. You have complete free speech to lobby to change this law. What you don't have the right to do is seeking to intimidate women exercising their current abortion rights. The woman has been charged. I cannot find whether or not she has been found guilty and I expect the outcome of the trial will be newsworthy. With regards to the Lucy Connolly case what you describe as "the highly emotional hours after Axel Rudakubana killed three young girls at a Taylor Swift dance party in Southport in July 2024" was actually a series of nationwide riots over a number of days and was the largest incident of social unrest in England since 2011. It involved attacks on the police, on mosques, homes and businesses owned by immigrants, and hotels housing asylum seekers. What she tweeted was clearly an incitement to violence. You are right that we don't have a first amendment and I'm very glad we don't. It means that debates about the limits of free speech and how it clashes with other human rights are about what is the right balance for society and individuals rather than what some people meant when they wrote a document in the 18th century without any knowledge of what social media would do to society. The UK is still a signatory to the European Convention of Human Rights, and article 10 gives a right of free speech. Like nearly all rights in the ECHR it is not absolute, since it is recognised that the different rights are in tension. It is an ongoing political process determining what the right balance is. I agree with you that restrictions on much political speech are counterproductive and there is robust debate about that across Europe.

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